Ok, this might be a girl thing now…

Some of you boyz on the blog might not understand this, but I like Tom Cruise movies! I grew up with this guy. And I never agreed to this “special deal” he gets on the internet when it comes to his membership in the Church of Scientology. So I am glad he could go on Oprahs Winfrey’s show (which I do not watch, normally) and say something about the allegations. I mean, in the end, he is an actor, a father, a family man, and a Scientologist. No big deal. Check out his new website, www.tomcruise.com (doesn’t work somehow without the “www”).

Below is an article about it. Make up your own mind.

If you had to work during the show (like me) and misprogrammed your VCR (like me) there is a chance to watch it the part of last Friday online at redlasso.com.

– Louanne

http://www.hiphop-elements.com/article/read/4/23559/1/

Tom Cruise was featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show on Friday from his Telluride, Colorado home.

Cruise made national attention the last time he was on the show in May 2005. Cruise was on the set, jumping on the couch, professing his love for his new girlfriend, whom he did not mention by name. His girlfriend was later identified as Katie Holmes, who he married one month later.

This is part one of a two-part interview with Cruise on the Oprah Winfrey show.

Winfrey was welcomed to the Telluride, Colorado home with her own pair of personalized slippers.

Winfrey interviewed Cruise about his couch-jumping incident and his involvement with The Church of Scientology.

“That was a moment, and it was real, and I don’t know if I would (do it differently). I really don’t,” Cruise admitted about jumping on the couch.

“It’s a minority religion, and I think that sometimes people misinterpret [it],” he says about Scientology. “I think the best thing is for people to read about it themselves. I believe people have the right to choose what they believe in.

“The code of Scientologists says you respect the religious beliefs of others,” Cruise adds. “That’s part of being a Scientologist, and that’s who I am as a person.”

20 Comments

  1. WOW you take the word “psychiatry” out of your comment and you’re describing $cientology to a T!!
    “and it is individuals sucking in tax money by the billions for “research” which never accomplishes any results. Those needs to be examined, made accountable for their “results” and they need to show that they factually can help. IMHO, Psychiatry is the most ridiculous belief system I have ever seen. Lots of mysticism, white coats and all, lots of belief needed to see ANY changes to the better. And lots of blindness needed NOT to see the screaming abuses this ideology brought about.”

    You have no possibility to check my quote? Okay, it happened on October 7, 1995, Scientology’s Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige, spoke to tens of thousands of Scientologists around the world. He set a goal for Scientologists – destroying psychiatry in five years.

  2. @Comment by Libraesque on June 9, 2008 5:07 pm

    I am sorry that you feel embarrassed because of me. That is not my intent.

    Still, a lot of Scientologists are engaged to get rid of psychiatric abuses, not some undefined “psychiatry”, which is an ideology not people. It is individuals who rape patients under the cloak of “help” and it is individuals sucking in tax money by the billions for “research” which never accomplishes any results. Those needs to be examined, made accountable for their “results” and they need to show that they factually can help. IMHO, Psychiatry is the most ridiculous belief system I have ever seen. Lots of mysticism, white coats and all, lots of belief needed to see ANY changes to the better. And lots of blindness needed NOT to see the screaming abuses this ideology brought about. If “DM” says in an event – and I have no possibility to check if your quote is correct – that psychiatry should be eliminated, he is talking about their abuses and their numerous attempts to sell snake oil.

    You might not like the style of these speeches (and I do understand that), but why don’t you have a look at the FACTS.

    – Louanne

  3. louanne, you COMPLETELY avoided my post re: D.M. mission. You are completely discrediting yourself on this site, it’s embarrassing. This quote DOES NOT say his goal is to end “psychiatric abuse”
    Objective Two – eliminate psychiatry in all its forms. Let’s get rid of psychiatry.

    IN ALL ITS FORMS. Lets see you try to put a spin on a direct quote that IS NOT taken out of context or any other bullshit.

  4. @ Comment by Okay I’m Anonymous Now on June 8, 2008 12:21 am

    “The (alleged) inherent danger of psychiatry is a key point of faith in the Scientology(TM) religion.”

    Wrong. Scientology doctrine does not mention psychiatry or does any reference to it aside from maybe that Scientology has nothing in common with it.

    “it is reasonable to assume that Tom Cruise’s opposition to psychiatry is a consequence of his involvement in the “Church” of Scientology(TM).”

    Which is a nice rhetoric trick to avoid dealing with facts and arguments but rather talk about some obscure, esoteric “reasons” why the talk happens at all. This might be an “A” for avoiding the issue but is a clear “F” for critical think and objective observation.

    “Not everyone who is anti-psychiatry is a Scientologist(TM).”

    That is certainly observable. There are many people who despise psychiatric abuses.

    “But everyone who is a Scientologist(TM) is anti-psychiatry.”

    Incorrect. Every Scientologist is opposing psychiatric abuses just like any other human rights abuse. The key term here is “psychiatric abuse” not “psychiatry” which is an ideology and not an activity.

    “So when Tom Cruise makes anti-psychiatry statements, and one examines the reason for those statements, one is naturally led to examine the “Church” of Scientology(TM), for better or worse.”

    Only by those who like to engage in finger pointing to avoid dealing with facts and arguments. OKAIN, I thought you had an open mind for things but this indicates a certain unwillingness to look at facts and deal with them.

    – Louanne

  5. Oy. Let’s be clear about something here. The (alleged) inherent danger of psychiatry is a key point of faith in the Scientology(TM) religion. Thus, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, it is reasonable to assume that Tom Cruise’s opposition to psychiatry is a consequence of his involvement in the “Church” of Scientology(TM). To put it in simple syllogistic terms:

    Not everyone who is anti-psychiatry is a Scientologist(TM).
    But everyone who is a Scientologist(TM) is anti-psychiatry.

    So when Tom Cruise makes anti-psychiatry statements, and one examines the reason for those statements, one is naturally led to examine the “Church” of Scientology(TM), for better or worse.

  6. @Comment by Libraesque on June 5, 2008 6:45 pm

    I am bit split if I should pity you or shake you awake. Can we agree that Tom Cruise was talking about psychiatry in this interview?

    – Louanne

  7. Louanne, I don’t think I’m alone in seeing that you are seriously embarrassing yourself. Tom Cruise was on a mission via the COS on the Today SHow, and to try to spin it otherwise is only destroying your credibility here
    In 1969, L. Ron Hubbard wrote a confidential memo to his wife, then head of Scientology’s espionage branch, called “The War”. In it, he envisioned Scientologists destroying psychiatry and replacing it with Scientology:

    “Our war has been forced to become ‘To take over absolutely the field of mental healing on this planet in all forms. … Our total victory will come when we run [the psychiatrist’s] organisations, perform his functions and obtain his financing and appropriations.”

    On October 7, 1995, Scientology’s Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige, spoke to tens of thousands of Scientologists around the world. He set a goal for Scientologists – destroying psychiatry in five years:

    “There are a lot of opinions out there as to what is wrong with Earth, 1995. But if you really want to eliminate those problems all you have to do is work for the objectives that we, as members of the IAS, have set for the year 2000: Objective One – place Scientology at the absolute forefront of Society. Objective Two – eliminate psychiatry in all its forms. Let’s get rid of psychiatry, and let’s bring Scientology to every man, woman and child on this planet.”

  8. @Comment by Libraesque on June 4, 2008 10:47 pm

    “Anti-psychiatry and $cientology are the same thing.”

    Ouch. No there is actually – in real life, with real Scientologists – no relation between “anti-psychiatry” and “Scientology”. Anti-Psychiatry ideas are that psychiatry is harming people under the guise of “help”. Scientology is about helping people. In the interview with Lauer Cruise talked about abuses in psychiatry, but did not make mention of Scientology, if I remember right. Abuses in psychiatry are not hard to find and it does not take a Scientologist to uncover them.

    – Louanne

  9. louanne, are you kidding? “He did one interview on TV, about psychiatry not Scientology” Anti-psychiatry and $cientology are the same thing. Thats what they teach, and thats what he was preaching about on the Today show. And actually in that video, he DOES seem to be expressing a desire for a $cientology only world………you know where SP’s are something we read about in history books…you saw that , right?

    A marketing campaign????? WTF????

  10. @Comment by tomkatarecrazy on May 23, 2008 6:46 pm

    I saw it. Now what?

    The craze about Cruise’s Scientology membership was mainly stirred up by media and still is. He did one interview on TV, about psychiatry not Scientology, and for three years the story ran and ran and ran. Well, Cruise did not come out and say “I am Scientologist and everybody has to be”. No, from a short analysis of the media about him I would say Scientology opposition continuously promoted that. Especially Anonymous. So do you think that Anonymous is actually a marketing campaign of the Church of Scientology?

    – Louanne

  11. FYI Pat…..from the words of your leader himself (it makes me chuckle that you PRETEND things aren’t TRUE)
    re: TC being a spokesperson….
    “Across 90 nations, 5,000 people hear his word of Scientology — every hour . . . Every minute of every hour someone reaches for LRH technology . . . simply because they know Tom Cruise is a Scientologist.”

    Uhm, and did you miss his spot on the Today show by any chance????

  12. @Comment by veritas on May 14, 2008 12:59 am
    >Well I’ll admit I have only seen cruise in MI and I was underwhelmed with the whole movie.
    But actually ‘Valkyrie’ looks like it’ll be good, its been a while since a non-typical historical hollywood movie came out, the subject and time period really interest me, its too bad it keeps getting shelved.

    Looks like they needed to reshoot some scenes to explain how the main char got the wounds.

    Pat

  13. the name says it all….

  14. Louanne, whats wrong with you exactly? What is with your crazy comments? I could GET another heart attack??? One doesn’t GET heart attacks dear, and fyi, I’ve never HAD a heart attack, so really what ARE you talking about???

    Pat, do you know the definition of spokesperson?

    a person who speaks for another or for a group.

    I think he falls into that catagory….he doesn’t get a paycheck for it like Pouw does, but….

  15. Well I’ll admit I have only seen cruise in MI and I was underwhelmed with the whole movie.
    But actually ‘Valkyrie’ looks like it’ll be good, its been a while since a non-typical historical hollywood movie came out, the subject and time period really interest me, its too bad it keeps getting shelved.

  16. @Comment by Libraesque on May 13, 2008 6:51 pm

    Hold your horses. Seriously. You could get another heart attack and die.

    – L

  17. Comment by Libraesque on May 13, 2008 6:51 pm

    >I haven’t gone to the website and I don’t plan to. I don’t need to see a masterbation session starring tom cruise.

    >And your response that “He never was a spokesperson for the Church of Scientology ” is GLIB and it’s a downright LIE, you’re embarrassing and discrditing yourself with that comment

    Show me the official site (Scientology) where he’s been assigned as spokesperson for the Church of Scientology and I’ll publically acknowledge it on XenuTV. Last I saw Karen Pouw was Public Relations. Guess you’re unfamiliar with our organizational structure, hmm?

    Pat

  18. I haven’t gone to the website and I don’t plan to. I don’t need to see a masterbation session starring tom cruise.

    And your response that “He never was a spokesperson for the Church of Scientology ” is GLIB and it’s a downright LIE, you’re embarrassing and discrditing yourself with that comment

  19. L, I am not “trivilalizing tom cruise being a scientologist”, I am treating him as what he is: an actor and producer of/in good movies. That’s all there is to it. He never was a spokesperson for the Church of Scientology (though some critics wanted that to be) and it was about time he shows this in life and action. As for money and so on: he earned several HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS with all his movies in the last 25 years and will probably never live long enough to spend it all. So, really, do you think he’s got money problems? I am curious what you find wrong with his new website. Wanna let me know?

    – Louanne

  20. Louanne, you’re trivilalizing tom cruise being a scientologist. It IS a big deal obviously, otherwise why would there be this shit storm surrounding him? If it wasn’t a big deal in the eyes of the public, (who by the way pay to see his movies which made him be able to afford mansions in CO.) WHY would he feel the need to defend himself 3 years later, and play the victim…poor misunderstood tom?? Because what’s a big deal to tc is MONEY, and he’s clearly in trouble over at UA, the signs are all there.
    He’s “best friends” with David M., and it’s being reported over and over in the media that this guy has beaten the shit out of a lot of people on a regular basis for YEARS. I’d say thats kind of a big deal..if you lay down wioth dogs you’re gonna get fleas


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